PIGEON HOLE from Vol. 1 No. 5 (1999)
N: It was a Yamaha, Pacifica, a black and white front board, and I thought it was so hot, and I was like the coolest thing around, and I’m a girl and I’m gonna be a bitch on guitar, and I was like, yeah, rock on, and I was like, G G G G (laughter) rocking out on G.
I: Oh and we did some corny songs with that guitar. We did dust in the wind.
N: And that didn’t work, it was a really bad combination. So after that was our second year of high school, and the year after that it was still not working, so I just baby-sat a lot and I bought myself an acoustic guitar. From then on, we did covers, like the indigo girls…
I: And years of the Grapes of Wrath.
N: We’d been doing covers for three years then. We were 16.
I: Then we went through a phase where we played with a band.
L: What was the band called?
I: (laughs) We were called Pigeon Hole.
N: The guys didn’t like the name and we were like ‘oh well.”
I: Yeah (laughs)
L: What sort of songs did you play?
N: We did a Soundgarden song…
I: We did Pearl Jam too.
L: Heavy! (Everyone laughs for a while)
I: Can you picture Pigeon Hole doing Pearl Jam?
L: It’s kind of strange.
N: Whatever. It worked at the time, we were all into it.
I: It was more fun than anything else, we were just having a blast.
N: We were so down with it, we even played a Dawson Talent show. We were all happy yelling, ‘a gig! a gig!’ We were so happy….that was such a good time of our lives.
I: Yup and then…
N: Our drummer. He’s like, “I don’t enjoy playing this kind of music. He was into Weather Report, and Jaco Pastorius, and stuff. He had made the discovery. He said, ‘I don’t enjoy playing this music anymore.’ That night we went out and had ice cream because we felt…
I: It was a break up.
N: We felt like we had been dumped. Band music is so much like a relationship, man.
I: It’s thought dust, man.
N: It was really sad, but whatever, and from then on we got to really get into song writing. Just the two of us. From there it just really picked up.
L: How do you feel about insincerity in your musical lives? You guys write great songs, you put out an album, you must be dealing with overambitious people with insincere motives trying to profit off your music?
N: Right now, we’ve gone through the shady thing with people, people who have approached us about weird things that…people are never clear, people are so cryptic. I just feel like saying, ‘Hey is that your name? Is that your real name? What do you do? What is your job? When you get up in the morning and you go somewhere what do you do? What is your job?’…and then, ‘What do you want to do with us? What’s the deal? Have you even heard us play?’ Do you know what I mean?
L: Yeah.
N: So that’s kind of thing you need to go though with them. Oftentimes it’s just people where you don’t really know what exactly it is that they want. They say, ‘I want to work with you,’ and you’re like, ‘well what do you want to do?’ It’s so shady.
I: and Oh oh…I’m gonna add to that… they’ll just lay a contract in front of you and you’re like…What? You haven’t even spoken for like 10 minutes dude and you pop this contract in front of us, it just kinda…
L: What was the contract?
I: LA records…with Polenchi.
N: Oh yeah, this was the place where we recorded the album, independently. Not on any (together) label.
N: At all. We got funding from a contest that we won to record.
L: What contest?
N: It was a battle of the bands in the West Island.
L: Okay…
N: Really lame, but it was money so (laughs.)
L: Yeah but you can’t put that down… that’s really great. That’s my biggest block! But wait you recorded the album and they wanted to…
N: It was a production contract. So he would be our producer and record everything and like do everything for free but we’d have to give him all these crazy royalties! and like…
I: He’d have total control over it.
N: Yeah, it was like… the two unsuspecting girls and it was a very bad contract. We ended up showing it to a lawyer and he was just like, ‘bad news.’
I: Yeah.
N: So it wasn’t very cool of him and but… whatever. We never signed it. So that’s the kind of thing that Isabelles’s talking about I guess, really shady people that throw things in front of you and you’re like….whatever.
L: People eager to profit.
N: Yeah.
